We’re gonna have a conversation with Kelvin from Kees Opleidingen, as we explore why skilled trades like plumbing, carpentry, and tiling were more common among men and boys in the past. Kelvin will share his journey of training young men from the Black diaspora in essential trades, many of whom are dissatisfied with their experiences in the Netherlands, and encouraging them to bring these skills back to their motherland, where they can make a greater impact. We will also address the pressing issue of the absence of Black-owned construction companies within our communities and in the Netherlands.